Peace
Dec 17, 2024 2024-12-17 Ben Hoyer John 14:25-27An Advent week-two reflection on the theme of peace, drawn from John 14:25-27 and Jesus' promise of the Holy Spirit as helper and the gift of his peace, featuring a conversation with guests Carol Forrest and Brian Carlson.
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Okay, so we're looking at these four themes for Advent and the second theme is peace. And so I have a text here from John chapter 14 starting at 25 that says, these things I have spoken to you while I'm still with you, but the helper, the Holy Spirit whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you.
Peace I leave with you. My peace I give to you, not as the world gives do I give to you. So let not your hearts be troubled. Neither let them be afraid. Got with me today. Carol Forrest and Brian Carlson maybe heard of them. They're here because I like the way they think about the Bible. Guys, what is this little section of Jesus talking to his disciples about peace make you think of? Yeah, I like that the Holy Spirit gets a couple attributes here because it's so the
Holy Spirit feels like the hardest one to explain out of the Trinity. It's just this guy floating around entering people's hearts. So yeah, like here it's helper and it's actually capitalized, which is kind of cool. And then also peace I leave with you. So peace, like he's the helper and he's the peacemaker. And I think it kind of goes in line too with like what we talked about in the last one of
a little bit of like sufferings is where this comes out of is, you know, he's about to leave and he's telling them what he's going to leave. You know, he's saying, hey, these things I've spoken to while I'm still with you, but when I'm gone, I'm going to send the helper. So the idea of having to have faith in the Holy Spirit in your heart to have a helper and to know that like this is who you are now and this is a part of you. And I think for me, how that can change the narrative on how you think and how you operate
in the world to know who you are. Yeah. Yeah, it's like so interesting to think about peace being something tangible that's given and left behind. Like, can't all the way put my brain around that. Kara, what does this text make you think of? I like peace. I do. I spend all my days creating peace. But I think about like when he says peace, I leave with you peace.
My piece I give to you. I think about is it the same piece when he told the waves to stop waving and when everything was terrible, like, is that what we're getting? I think so. Like how do we access that through the Holy Spirit? I feel like I've gotten pretty good at it, but that's also part of who I am as a person, always seeking peace and seeing things from all sides and the good and the bad and just
accepting that it all exists together. So standing in the middle of all of it, the Holy Spirit gives us peace, which I equate with calm, low-bred pressure, right? Like trust. Yeah. It all goes together. Sort of. Yeah. And I like that I resonate with what you're saying and I like that it locates peace as
this gift from the Spirit. So Jesus isn't saying I'll manufacture situations in which you have peace, but I'll give you peace from me. So like we were looking at that other verse about transcends understanding. It's like peace being this gift that enters into the world through the person of Jesus and the kind of dispensation of the Spirit. It's fun. So your Christmas season, your Advent season might be stressful.
Yeah, hard. Yeah. But does it mean peace is inaccessible even in stressful situations? Right.